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JimfromOhio

I am happlily married with 5 kids. I am an accoutant and worked in an accounting field for over 25 years. I like to make a habit of writing down whenever I have deep thoughts about God (so I won't forget). I really into Reformed Theology that is connected to Presbyterian Church in America.

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I enjoy having deep thoughts about God and put down what I actually think about (so I won't forget).

Thursday, March 02, 2006

Discerning

Can be any organizations such as MinistryWatch. MinistryWatch is an online database with profiles on more than 400 of the largest church and parachurch ministries in the United States. It is also a place where you can learn about how to be a "responsible giver". A spiritual leader will not be perfect nor sinless but still the leader to be trusted is the one who lives as near like Christ as possible. A spiritual leader ought to be humble, self-effacing, self-sacrificing, modest, clean living, free from the love of money that financial accounts will be freely open for inspection, ethical standards will be high and personal life is above reproach. We are living in the times of confusion and it is sometimes hard to distinguish the false from the true. God have provided us the Word of God to save us from the consequences of our own blindness by repeated warnings and many careful instructions.

Inspecting Fruits

Appearance is one thing but fruit of the Spirit is the other. "You should not judge", is not the same as "fruit inspector", or "discerning true and false teachings". People who don't discern are those who are "ignorance". Its really interesting about people are mixing "judging" and "discerning". Jesus gave us the formula for finding out "false prophets," but the devil are using people to tell us we should "not judge." So people are telling us: "God didn't make you a judge so therefore do not inspect fruits." Jesus gave us wonderful examples and one of His great example is "By THEIR FRUITS you shall know them" Christians are too look at the WHOLE package of a Christian. Do not have a tunnel vision" based on their teachings alone. You need to look at their whole being. By THEIR fruits, you shall know them. Each false prophet has fruit that is bad, and Jesus said: "A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit!" Jesus reminds us that if the fruit is bad, so is the tree. Look at the whole ministry. I don't care how long good a TV preacher is preaching because Jesus said: "by their fruits, you shall know THEM!" You can literally know a false prophet when you see one, when you watch the fruit he or she produces. Please, if you are a follower of Jesus Christ, Christ have commmanded us to discern and steer away from false teachings.

More Deep Thoughts

How well anyone can recover from obvious mistakes? Depends on the mistakes and how people responded to the mistakes. Especially to the outsiders who are watching. 1 Timothy 3:7 He must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil's trap. Earlier in 1 Timothy, Chapter 3, he talks about "reproach". Reproach means an expression of rebuke or disapproval; the act or action of reproaching or disapproving ; a cause or occasion of blame, discredit, or disgrace; to express disappointment in or displeasure with (a person) for conduct that is blameworthy. Evangelism requires courtesy from a believer and be Christ-like. Many have accepted Christ by watching Christians more than talking. In 1 Corinthians 13:5 says "Love does not act unbecomingly"; which means a Christian should demonstrate godly love and have real credibility. Our credibility is very important. Is the modern day church growth movement biblical or unbiblical in its beliefs and practices? One of my issues with "showmanship" preachers is their credibility financially as well as personal conduct. Those "preachers" who don't allow Christian Auditors to review their books is a sign of deceit. I won't donate to any Preachers that is not audited by an independent auditor or auditors. One thing I know of, many non-Christians who receives private donations have open their books to the public (auditors). Why can't Christians? Are Christians hiding like the Pharisees did with their money? Its an accountability issue. If you go to ECFA's website and do a "search" on each of well known TV Preachers' financial information, you will find that many of them are not listed as members of Evangelical Council For Financial Accountability (ECFA). If they are not opening their books, their are hiding their wealth. How many organizations, preachers and etc are willing to allow other to check on their ethics and have their financial records audited by Christians Auditors? For example of accountibility, Billy Graham Evangelistic Association is one of the Charter members of the Evangelical Council For Financial Accountability (Since 12/1/1979). This is an area in which people are highly vulnerable to self-deception, where likenesses and differences are so difficult to distinguish in the "religion" world. People often do not escape deceptions around the world. During the deceptions, so called preachers are growing rich on the miseries and pains of people who are searching for truth. Paul said that in Romans 16:18 "For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people." 2 Corinthians 11:12 I'm just trying to keep things open and honest between us. And I'm not changing my position on this. I'd die before taking your money. I'm giving nobody grounds for lumping me in with those money-grubbing "preachers," vaunting themselves as something special. 1 Timothy 6:9-10 But if it's only money these leaders are after, they'll self-destruct in no time. Lust for money brings trouble and nothing but trouble. Going down that path, some lose their footing in the faith completely and live to regret it bitterly ever after. 2 Corinthians 8:20 taking every precaution against scandal. We don't want anyone suspecting us of taking one penny of this money for ourselves. Fishes are known to be very gullible. Proverbs 14:15 The gullible believe anything they're told; the prudent sift and weigh every word. Romans 16:19 And so while there has never been any question about your honesty in these matters--I couldn't be more proud of you!-I want you also to be smart, making sure every "good" thing is the real thing. Don't be gullible in regard to smooth-talking evil. Stay alert. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 On the other hand, don't be gullible. Check out everything, and keep only what's good. Jesus said in Matthew 7:15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves." again in Matthew 24:24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and miracles to deceive even the elect—if that were possible. I rather be a "discerner" than a "gullible persons". Proverbs 17:24 A discerning man keeps wisdom in view, but a fool's eyes wander to the ends of the earth. That's the trouble within Christian communities. They tend to focus on superficial activities to get people's eyes for attention rather than their HEARTS. Ephesians 1:18 I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints. I am weary too but at the same time, I am there and ready for any clean up to those who got caught in the trap of showmanship. I have witnessed many and have encouraged them to allow the Holy Spirit to guid their hearts to Christ instead of using their physical eyes. Titus 3:3 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. 1 Thessalonians 5:14 And we urge you, brothers, warn those who are idle, encourage the timid, help the weak, be patient with everyone. We all including me have gone through this simply because of our sinful nature that we are born with. We are to Love Him, discern the teachings and only have FAITH in Him in any circumstances in our lives. We are so entangled with human "reasonings". In 1 Corinthians 2:6, “but not the kind of wisdom that belongs to this world....” made me think. Wisdom by definition means quality of being wise; power of judging rightly and following the soundest course of action, based on knowledge, experience and understanding. In 1 Peter 1: 13 - 16 We are to present our bodies "as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God. Truth is, the Holy Spirit is able to grasp our inner being only when we submit completely which will allow Him to teach us, lead us mysterious and divine where we ought to go. Remember, since God is love, therefore, we must surrender to love or we can never know the truth of God. "Teach me your way, O LORD, and I will walk in your truth; give me an undivided heart, that I may fear your name." — Psalm 86:11 Not everyone can be John the Baptist, Not everyone can be Billy Graham. Everyone have their own spiritual gifts as God given them. We should use our spiritual gifts without "showmanship" or similar way because the Holy Spirit is THE one is doing all the work for us.